Intelligence is not a privilege its a gift

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   Yurka Let The Games Begin!

   Joined:May 30, 2006Messages:19,889Likes Received:2

   Is anyone else bothered by Doc Ock's contradiction in the film?

   First he states when hes sitting with Peter, "Intelligence is not a privilege its a gift"

   Then in his final moments, Peter says to Ock "You once told me intelligence....." and Ock responds "A Privilege"

   this is one of my biggest problems with this movie, does this bother anyone else??????

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   Joined:Apr 9, 2005Messages:5,000Likes Received:0

   Nope because shoddy writing is what I expect from half-assed writers on these movies.

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   Spidey Snooch ...to the MF'n nooch...

   Joined:Jun 1, 2007Messages:262Likes Received:0

   I interperet that as Doc is too mentally and physically beat down to know exactly what he had said, he just recalls the conversation.
   OR
   No one caught the slip-up
   OR
   They caught it but didn't have the time or budget to re-shoot.

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   Joined:Jun 14, 2006Messages:17,486Likes Received:117

   I'm not gonna try to defend it. I agree with Mr 7000+ about the writing in general . . . but, we look for our characters in movies to make some kind of journey during the film; after what Ock had been through and realised during the film maybe would have changed his views and his beliefs.

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   Joined:May 15, 2002Messages:2,183Likes Received:0

   Wow, you have some deep rooted emotional problems to hate this film as much as you do. I've read your other posts. It's really sad. Get a life.

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   The way he says "...Privilege!" at the end comes off very resigned/you-were-right-ish. He finally sees it, as Peter has always seen it, as a privilege to be responsible with rather than a gift to do with what one pleases. At least that's how that exchange has always appeared to me.

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   Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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   Joined:Apr 20, 2006Messages:889Likes Received:2

   In french version, Ock says : "Not a privilege" which makes a little more sense.

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   da3dl3us Wandering Samurai (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});

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    Joined:Jun 15, 2007Messages:4,581Likes Received:0

    lol, neither did i, though it doesn't bother me.

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    Joined:Jul 22, 2007Messages:5,786Likes Received:0

    It probably would've erked me if I'd noticed it sooner.

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    Immortalfire In the pale moonlight

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    yeah I noticed. I always do. but this still won't ruin anything...

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    Joined:Feb 6, 2007Messages:566Likes Received:0

    I've seen him in french, so they corrected it. In french he says "not a privilege"

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    Joined:Jul 8, 2007Messages:9,441Likes Received:168

    I think they corrected this in portuguese, too.

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    Joined:Dec 23, 2006Messages:1,315Likes Received:30

    I noticed it, and I think it's weird, although it doesn't bother me much

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    Joined:Jul 7, 2006Messages:47,233Likes Received:2

    Agreed. I never noticed it either and it doesn't bother me as well.

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    Joined:Aug 16, 2007Messages:1,155Likes Received:0

    Hmm... never noticed it before, but now that I think about it, I wager that it was probably intentional and representative of the two ends of Octavius's character arc.

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    Joined:Feb 25, 2005 Messages:1,809Likes Received:0

    I never really noticed this either. But I guess I always just assumed he was recalling the conversation or had almost just been beaten sensless after days and days of losing his mind and never really gave it any thought.

    is a bit of an error, but not that major.

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    Joined:Jun 10, 2005Messages:15,262Likes Received:3

    Intelligence and consistency are not a concern for Raimi in this franchise.

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    Joined:Nov 13, 2003Messages:960Likes Received:0

    I did notice it and it was an issue to me for a while.
    I don’t mind and even welcome deliberate lose ends and plot holes in movies where it’s appropriate, either its blatantly obvious that the viewers can figure it out for themselves without being shown or because it is the purpose of the plot to be open ended for the viewers to decide the outcome for themselves depending on their perspective.
    However, what is frustrating is that you don’t really know if that short line was a deliberate hole or a writing error. So I’m inclined to believe it’s the later. See, I detest this kind of liberty foreign translators sometimes take. Writing errors aside, you should translate only what you hear, unless of course you’re reading from the original script.
    This reminds me of Stryker’s line from X2: “Nature.”
    When I saw the film in the movie theater my native language subtitles read: “Nature does its work,” as if implying that he has evolved intellectually. Now he could’ve meant that, it’s possible, but that also could’ve been a code word to subdue Logan. The translation erased the double meaning completely.

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    Joined:May 12, 2006Messages:27,158Likes Received:228

    I never noticed it. It doesn't really bother me.

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    Joined:Apr 9, 2005Messages:5,000Likes Received:0

    So? I have an opinion on this movie that differs from your own. I'm free to express this as often as I like and contrary to what you think, I have a life so deal with it.

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